Friday, February 12, 2010

Christians, if Muslims die for their faith, does that mean their belief is true?

I think it takes much more faith to kill yourself for your faith rather than let someone martyr you, what do you think?Christians, if Muslims die for their faith, does that mean their belief is true?
Well of course...Muslims TRULY believe in their scripture and holy book. They do not deny one single word of it. I'm not saying this as any offense to anybody, but there are WAY MORE a real practicing Muslims than there are real practicing Christians. We stay true to our religion. And the only time you die for your religion (ex: martyr) is when you are in a war. You simply aren't going to go risk getting killed in the name of Islam for no reason.





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Don't listen to Suberb9006...he is just a hateful person who can't have tolerance for other religions. If he actually read the Quran, it says this:


Quran 5:82: ';Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, ';We are Christians';: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.';Christians, if Muslims die for their faith, does that mean their belief is true?
Those that have died as such obviously believed in what they were doing if that's what you mean. The Heaven's Gate people who killed themselves to ride a comet also believed in their thing as well. I am not sure however that such is wisdom or virtue in that regard.





Christians are not called to kill themselves, and certainly are not called to do so to demonstrate faith.
No. People who believe in a religion might die for it, especially if that religion actually celebrates martyrdom. However, people will not die for something they know is a lie. This is why the conspiracy theory that critics of christianity use - the claim that the disciples made it all up - doesn't fly. People don't allow themselves to be tortured and killed for something they know is a lie. They would have confessed it was made up. However, we have no evidence to show that any one of the apostles of Jesus confessed that they made the whole thing up.
Your question makes no sense logically. When you die for your faith you ARE letting someone martyr you.





You should have more respect for the martyrdom of the saints. They're part of your quaran too, right? They died painful deaths you know.
Mmmm....no. Their belief that Islam is true may be strong, but the strength of one's conviction does not determine veracity. Many people will kill or be killed for what they believe, whether what they believe to be true, is in fact, true.





And anyone who kills themselves for their faith makes me question their faith. I don't necessarily question their earnestness, just the object of their faith. What is it that they are placing their faith in that requires them to kill themselves and others?





Having faith is not the most important thing. It is the object of one's faith that makes all the difference. That is why Jesus said if one had the faith of a mustard seed, one could move mountains:


Mat 17:20


(20) And Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief. For truly I say to you, If you have faith like a grain of mustard seed, you shall say to this mountain, Move from here to there. And it shall move. And nothing shall be impossible to you.





Jesus is saying that the object of our faith is what matters. If our faith is in Christ, then even if our faith is as small as a mustard seed, there is nothing that is impossible for us. Why? Because our faith is in Jesus Christ, who is the Way, the Life, and the Truth and in whom all things exist. If we ask in faith, according to God's will, then we can be assured that it will be done. God's Word is Truth.
Of course it does, according to Christian logic. The alleged ';death'; of the apostles is frequently cited as evidence that Jesus not only existed, but was a godman.





Consequently, if Muslims are willing to die for their religion, it must be TRUE! LOL.
Fail. Muslims don't just kill themselves for what they believe. They try and take as many non muslims with them. That is not being martyred, that's murder. Of themselves and others. That is also hatred which is never truth.
No. True belief is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. As Jesus said at John 8:31, 32: ';If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth.'; That is the only real truth worth dying for.
He that Lives by the Sword will Die by the Sword:
why would their belief be true if they kill themselfs because of it? there just killing for nothing,
Which book did you plagarize that one from? Hitchens, Harris?
what we think doesnt matter, it matters what God and the Bible says

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